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		<title>Comment on Personality diseases by marianasoffer</title>
		<link>http://beholdtheman.wordpress.com/2009/07/26/personality-diseases/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>marianasoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 07:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The two emotions, loneliness and boredom, are closely allied. They are also both characteristically modern. The Oxford English Dictionary&#039;s earliest citations of either word, at least in the contemporary sense, date from the 19th century ... Loneliness is not the absence of company, it is grief over that absence. The lost sheep is lonely; the shepherd is not lonely. But the Internet is as powerful a machine for the production of loneliness as television is for the manufacture of boredom. If six hours of television a day creates the aptitude for boredom, the inability to sit still, a hundred text messages a day creates the aptitude for loneliness, the inability to be by yourself. Some degree of boredom and loneliness is to be expected, especially among young people, given the way our human environment has been attenuated. But technology amplifies those tendencies. You could call your schoolmates when I was a teenager, but you couldn&#039;t call them 100 times a day. You could get together with your friends when I was in college, but you couldn&#039;t always get together with them when you wanted to, for the simple reason that you couldn&#039;t always find them. If boredom is the great emotion of the TV generation, loneliness is the great emotion of the Web generation. We lost the ability to be still, our capacity for idleness. They have lost the ability to be alone, their capacity for solitude. 

We are living in a culture that believes that science is the only valid way of knowledge. Instincts and tradition have become left aside. We are experiencing an age of rapid change, increasingly scarce resources, growing population, cultural mixing and many uncertainties about the future.

The fact that stress and culture can be among the primary causing factors of depression makes it clear that depression cannot be defined simply as a &quot;brain disease&quot;. That we need to attack depression from other angles such as the culture in which we live in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two emotions, loneliness and boredom, are closely allied. They are also both characteristically modern. The Oxford English Dictionary&#8217;s earliest citations of either word, at least in the contemporary sense, date from the 19th century &#8230; Loneliness is not the absence of company, it is grief over that absence. The lost sheep is lonely; the shepherd is not lonely. But the Internet is as powerful a machine for the production of loneliness as television is for the manufacture of boredom. If six hours of television a day creates the aptitude for boredom, the inability to sit still, a hundred text messages a day creates the aptitude for loneliness, the inability to be by yourself. Some degree of boredom and loneliness is to be expected, especially among young people, given the way our human environment has been attenuated. But technology amplifies those tendencies. You could call your schoolmates when I was a teenager, but you couldn&#8217;t call them 100 times a day. You could get together with your friends when I was in college, but you couldn&#8217;t always get together with them when you wanted to, for the simple reason that you couldn&#8217;t always find them. If boredom is the great emotion of the TV generation, loneliness is the great emotion of the Web generation. We lost the ability to be still, our capacity for idleness. They have lost the ability to be alone, their capacity for solitude. </p>
<p>We are living in a culture that believes that science is the only valid way of knowledge. Instincts and tradition have become left aside. We are experiencing an age of rapid change, increasingly scarce resources, growing population, cultural mixing and many uncertainties about the future.</p>
<p>The fact that stress and culture can be among the primary causing factors of depression makes it clear that depression cannot be defined simply as a &#8220;brain disease&#8221;. That we need to attack depression from other angles such as the culture in which we live in.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Personality diseases by Valuable Internet Information &#187; Personality diseases</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valuable Internet Information &#187; Personality diseases</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Philosophy in a nutshell by mariana</title>
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		<dc:creator>mariana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like what you say that philosophy is about. And I think that it will be useless if it where about finding the best mental model, because mental models are not just something one choses about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like what you say that philosophy is about. And I think that it will be useless if it where about finding the best mental model, because mental models are not just something one choses about.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Life is myth by Pierre</title>
		<link>http://beholdtheman.wordpress.com/2009/05/23/life-is-myth/#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps it is fear of life, fear of staring into an apparently infinite abyss, which makes us presume that understanding is there to be attained, and understanding is there to redeem our existence from that infinite abyss.

It is thus that we do not live anymore, and rationalize reasons as not to think anymore, and in our downfall in which we are too much submerged to realize, we will hit bottom and ourselves obliterate without realizing what our hands have wrought.

Existence does not require justifications, when one begins to justify, one has already ceased to live. 

In Nietzsche&#039;s words:

Might not this very Socratism be a sign of decline, of weariness, of infection, of the anarchical dissolution of the instincts? And the “Greek cheerfulness” of the later Greeks—merely the afterglow of the sunset? The Epicureans resolve against pessimism—a mere precaution of the afflicted? And science itself, our science—indeed, what is the significance of all science, viewed as a symptom of life? For what—worse yet, whence—all science? How now? Is the resolve to be so scientific about everything perhaps a kind of fear of, an escape from, pessimism? A subtle last resort against—truth? And, morally speaking, a sort of cowardice and falseness? Amorally speaking, a ruse? O Socrates, Socrates, was that perhaps your secret? O enigmatic ironist, was that perhaps your—irony?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps it is fear of life, fear of staring into an apparently infinite abyss, which makes us presume that understanding is there to be attained, and understanding is there to redeem our existence from that infinite abyss.</p>
<p>It is thus that we do not live anymore, and rationalize reasons as not to think anymore, and in our downfall in which we are too much submerged to realize, we will hit bottom and ourselves obliterate without realizing what our hands have wrought.</p>
<p>Existence does not require justifications, when one begins to justify, one has already ceased to live. </p>
<p>In Nietzsche&#8217;s words:</p>
<p>Might not this very Socratism be a sign of decline, of weariness, of infection, of the anarchical dissolution of the instincts? And the “Greek cheerfulness” of the later Greeks—merely the afterglow of the sunset? The Epicureans resolve against pessimism—a mere precaution of the afflicted? And science itself, our science—indeed, what is the significance of all science, viewed as a symptom of life? For what—worse yet, whence—all science? How now? Is the resolve to be so scientific about everything perhaps a kind of fear of, an escape from, pessimism? A subtle last resort against—truth? And, morally speaking, a sort of cowardice and falseness? Amorally speaking, a ruse? O Socrates, Socrates, was that perhaps your secret? O enigmatic ironist, was that perhaps your—irony?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Philosophers and those who purport to be by j.a. lawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>j.a. lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely understand where this comes from, because as a philosophy student, I found myself questioning my motivation for studying the subject. Did having philosophy as a major give me a mystical veil of intellectualism to hide behind? Did I pick up the subject just to become well-read and/or respected?

What became evident to me after a while was that those questions were moot because at it&#039;s core and perhaps on it&#039;s surface, philosophy IS a subject that is rewarding and gratifying on a personal level. The goal of a philosopher, therefore, should be revealing the many layers that lie under the surface but above the core. Namely, practical applications of philosophical principles. 

It is a sweeping generalization to say that academic philosophers pursue their practice primarily out of a desire for social statues because philosophy, despite its nature, is a very insular field. What I mean is that the only people reading the work of philosophers are more than likely philosophers or aspiring philosophers. In that sense, the writings are not to achieve social status but to further the study of a subject.

The practice of philosophy can seem to be nothing more than jockeying to be the top philosopher in whatever field but in reality, that is just the way the subject is. Even Descartes and Plato had to stand up to questioning from their contemporaries. In that sense it&#039;s more call and response than it is jocking for social status. 

This was a wonderful post. Very thought-provoking. I am so glad that I read it. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely understand where this comes from, because as a philosophy student, I found myself questioning my motivation for studying the subject. Did having philosophy as a major give me a mystical veil of intellectualism to hide behind? Did I pick up the subject just to become well-read and/or respected?</p>
<p>What became evident to me after a while was that those questions were moot because at it&#8217;s core and perhaps on it&#8217;s surface, philosophy IS a subject that is rewarding and gratifying on a personal level. The goal of a philosopher, therefore, should be revealing the many layers that lie under the surface but above the core. Namely, practical applications of philosophical principles. </p>
<p>It is a sweeping generalization to say that academic philosophers pursue their practice primarily out of a desire for social statues because philosophy, despite its nature, is a very insular field. What I mean is that the only people reading the work of philosophers are more than likely philosophers or aspiring philosophers. In that sense, the writings are not to achieve social status but to further the study of a subject.</p>
<p>The practice of philosophy can seem to be nothing more than jockeying to be the top philosopher in whatever field but in reality, that is just the way the subject is. Even Descartes and Plato had to stand up to questioning from their contemporaries. In that sense it&#8217;s more call and response than it is jocking for social status. </p>
<p>This was a wonderful post. Very thought-provoking. I am so glad that I read it. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Trolls and literary theory by Pyotr Izutsu</title>
		<link>http://beholdtheman.wordpress.com/2009/07/04/trolls-and-literary-theory/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>Pyotr Izutsu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. Pity the troll, since they certainly aren&#039;t going to be learning anything with that attitude.

Although I&#039;ve noticed that lately, some trolls are running their own blogs. These tend not to get much in the way of traffic, but they are up there. Usually they have a life of a few months before the troll gets bored, but in that time they can really churn a prolific amount of content.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. Pity the troll, since they certainly aren&#8217;t going to be learning anything with that attitude.</p>
<p>Although I&#8217;ve noticed that lately, some trolls are running their own blogs. These tend not to get much in the way of traffic, but they are up there. Usually they have a life of a few months before the troll gets bored, but in that time they can really churn a prolific amount of content&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Aboriginal philosophy: lessons to be had by Pyotr Izutsu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pyotr Izutsu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes they are (our values; messed up). It will be very interesting to see how this all pans out, and by &quot;this&quot; I mean Western industrial/modern civilization and by &quot;interesting&quot; I mean in the sense of &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_you_live_in_interesting_times&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;May you live in interesting times&lt;/a&gt;.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes they are (our values; messed up). It will be very interesting to see how this all pans out, and by &#8220;this&#8221; I mean Western industrial/modern civilization and by &#8220;interesting&#8221; I mean in the sense of &#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_you_live_in_interesting_times" rel="nofollow">May you live in interesting times</a>.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on When does an interest in philosophy become vulgar conceptual consumption? by beholdtheman</title>
		<link>http://beholdtheman.wordpress.com/2009/06/20/when-does-an-interest-in-philosophy-become-vulgar-conceptual-consumption/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>beholdtheman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations. I hope your happiness came from wanting what you have, not getting what you wanted. 

If the former, you have a good philosophy for life, one worth sharing and affirming.

I am cynical of your claims however. You have talked the language of &quot;wants&quot;, where before you only talked of three basic needs. If I were to take you at your word, I would expect that I&#039;d never see you wanting anything you didn&#039;t already have -- not even the latest Dr Who DVD box-set.

I know people who say &#039;God loves me and that is all that matters&#039;, but they all too soon forget such a myth, and their own words and actions betray it. It is good that they have such sentiments, but all too sad that they are fleeting. 

I hope that the delight in your life remains constant. 

I do believe persistent states of happiness are possible, but that it requires training and meditation, and above all, philosophising. I think that Buddhist Monks are a good example of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations. I hope your happiness came from wanting what you have, not getting what you wanted. </p>
<p>If the former, you have a good philosophy for life, one worth sharing and affirming.</p>
<p>I am cynical of your claims however. You have talked the language of &#8220;wants&#8221;, where before you only talked of three basic needs. If I were to take you at your word, I would expect that I&#8217;d never see you wanting anything you didn&#8217;t already have &#8212; not even the latest Dr Who DVD box-set.</p>
<p>I know people who say &#8216;God loves me and that is all that matters&#8217;, but they all too soon forget such a myth, and their own words and actions betray it. It is good that they have such sentiments, but all too sad that they are fleeting. </p>
<p>I hope that the delight in your life remains constant. </p>
<p>I do believe persistent states of happiness are possible, but that it requires training and meditation, and above all, philosophising. I think that Buddhist Monks are a good example of this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When does an interest in philosophy become vulgar conceptual consumption? by one billion daleks</title>
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		<dc:creator>one billion daleks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I can&#039;t respond to that because it would entail revealing personal details, something  that I am disinclined to do. Suffice to say, there are actually all manner of lifestyles that exclude elements that you apparently deem essential. But your notions of what is necessary for general well-being seem to be culturally and biologically defined, and thus consistent with your aspirations that philosophy busy itself about the task of improving life. Fair enough.

For myself, I can&#039;t think of any way that I would change my life, it is exactly the way I want it. So because I am already delighted with every aspect of my life, your kind of philosophy would be surplus to requirements, and utterly useless to me.

Good Luck with your endeavours!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I can&#8217;t respond to that because it would entail revealing personal details, something  that I am disinclined to do. Suffice to say, there are actually all manner of lifestyles that exclude elements that you apparently deem essential. But your notions of what is necessary for general well-being seem to be culturally and biologically defined, and thus consistent with your aspirations that philosophy busy itself about the task of improving life. Fair enough.</p>
<p>For myself, I can&#8217;t think of any way that I would change my life, it is exactly the way I want it. So because I am already delighted with every aspect of my life, your kind of philosophy would be surplus to requirements, and utterly useless to me.</p>
<p>Good Luck with your endeavours!</p>
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		<title>Comment on When does an interest in philosophy become vulgar conceptual consumption? by beholdtheman</title>
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		<dc:creator>beholdtheman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In regards to general wellbeing, you best be referring to zombies, not humans. From your list (food, shelter, security) you forgot the need to mate, be part of a family and live in complex, cooperative societies with others. The mind is needed for all these activities, I don&#039;t see how you can divorce it. Wellbeing for humans must include mental aspects. For example, generally suicides don&#039;t occur due to lack of food, shelter and security.

What has philosophy done for me? (The blogging is only one aspect). Well it hasn&#039;t helped me tangibly in terms of increasing the size of my wallet, or gifting me a larger penis (unforunately), but here&#039;s just a few things it has done:

- It has fine-tuned my &#039;bullshit detector&#039;, which is important because it prevents you from being taken on a ride by others
- It has helped me define who am I and what I will be in relation to the rest of society
- It has provided consolation at times
- It has assisted me in making many important life decisions, through considering broader implications of my action
- It has increased my happiness by seeing through the myths that would prevent it
- It has helped me appreciate life more</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to general wellbeing, you best be referring to zombies, not humans. From your list (food, shelter, security) you forgot the need to mate, be part of a family and live in complex, cooperative societies with others. The mind is needed for all these activities, I don&#8217;t see how you can divorce it. Wellbeing for humans must include mental aspects. For example, generally suicides don&#8217;t occur due to lack of food, shelter and security.</p>
<p>What has philosophy done for me? (The blogging is only one aspect). Well it hasn&#8217;t helped me tangibly in terms of increasing the size of my wallet, or gifting me a larger penis (unforunately), but here&#8217;s just a few things it has done:</p>
<p>- It has fine-tuned my &#8216;bullshit detector&#8217;, which is important because it prevents you from being taken on a ride by others<br />
- It has helped me define who am I and what I will be in relation to the rest of society<br />
- It has provided consolation at times<br />
- It has assisted me in making many important life decisions, through considering broader implications of my action<br />
- It has increased my happiness by seeing through the myths that would prevent it<br />
- It has helped me appreciate life more</p>
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